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MATMOS: SURGICAL BEATS

By tobias v

  Imagine this: a theatre packed to the gills, Matmos up front, a giant film screen behind them. A hush descends upon the black-jacketed masses as MC Schmidt runs a metal rod over his skin, picking up “chi” electrical impulses that produce loud electrical zing sounds. Drew Daniel mixes it in live with beats to form “Ur Tchun Tan Tse Qi,” an experimental house track from their new album, A Chance To Cut Is A Chance To Cure. Meanwhile, microsound artist Richard Chartier films the action close-up, blowing up Schmidt’s skin to sickening proportions on the screen. Then the rat cage: a contact mic is attached, and the sounds are beautiful plucks and vibrations. With bravado, Schmidt pulls out a violin bow and the souls of dead rats wail from the metal bars. Matmos are serious looking; Schmidt is deadpan, and Daniel only sneaks a smile when his back is turned. Everyone is standing to get a good look, nodding to each other with silly grins. Like Herbert, the performance is marred by technical problems including feedback on some intricate slide-guitar work by Schmidt, but they work through it and the “live” aspect—somewhat of a novelty for “electronic” music—heightens the experience. I talked to Matmos over the phone from the NYC Matador office. Despite numerous phone problems and a lost sheet of questions on my part, Matmos politely continued to answer my belligerent pestering.

I started off by mentioning Kid 606’s latest comment in DiSCORDER bashing minimal techno as the “lowest common denominator” of electronic music (“What about trance?!?” I thought). Matmos responded along the lines of “people in glass houses…”, and we went on to discuss the state of minimal techno and IDM today.

Drew: Too often, with IDM production I hear now-a-days, it’s a plateau. There is no development, no movement. There aren’t little themes or subsets. There’s basically beats and noises for 6 minutes, then you’re done. That sense of moving through the time of a song like moving through someone’s house, going from one room to another, where there’s some continuity and a personality—there are all parts used for different things—I’m more interested in song shapes that have that kind of movement…Scott Heron’s tracks I really like…

So with that in mind, we moved onto the new album: A Chance To Cut Is A Chance To Cure. All of the sounds are from various surgical apparatus, live surgeries, rat cages, acupuncture machines…certainly this is not minimal techno.

Discorder: Why surgery?

Drew: It’s personal. My father and stepmother are both plastic surgeons. So there’s an element of speaking with something that has been around me my whole life—but exploring it through music, trying to turn it into sound, which is something that I can control and use. There’s something aggressive in it, a cartoon version of what your parents do for a living.

Discorder: Are you fans of David Cronenburg?

Drew: I am, Martin is not. (Martin, distant: He’s a hack!) I really like Crash and Videodrome. I was really annoyed with the adaptation of Naked Lunch, because the way he handled Burrough’s sexuality seemed really confused to me.

Discorder: What about Dead Ringers?

Drew: I haven’t seen it, Martin has, and he regards it as a very sexist film (Martin: HAaaAATED IT!) I think there are a lot of people using the sort of fetishism of medical technology as scary in very simplistic ways—look at Marilyn Manson’s work…I think it’s just kind of cheap. People are already afraid of medicine, so you aren’t really doing anything transformative or interesting by making art that says “Wow! Medicine is scary.” For us, the challenge was to use [medical] material but to make it move in other directions.

At this point, I pick up on the fact that incessant sirens have been going off for the duration of the interview. I wonder: are they playing samples? Or is this “just another day in New York City,” as Daniel claims? I try to chuckle, and Daniel says: “You can remix us, and make us say interesting things.” So I did. THE SIRENS INCREASED. THINGS GOT LOUDER. They tried to end the interview, then all of a sudden, the sirens stopped. Then, we got into Herbert and his new album.

Drew: We gave Herbert the sound of Martin’s jugular vein for his new album because it has this bodily theme, and I’m working on a remix of “the audience” right now. He’s a very good friend at this point. Martin and I were big fans of his work as Dr. Rockitt.

Now I began thinking: Herbert has his new musical “Dogma” style manifesto, stating that, like the film manifesto, all sounds must be original, live, etc. So I opened it up to theory.

Discorder: I am curious, you guys are very articulate about all of this…is there some sort of theory behind the body focus?

Drew: There was no theory before the record was made. But I am a graduate student, I studied Philosophy, and now I am getting my PhD in Renaissance Literature. Martin works at the San Francisco Art Institute in their Performance and Conceptual Art Department. So we’re both from an academic context but I don’t think we’re wearing that hat when we’re making Matmos tracks. But often we are wearing that hat when we are explaining Matmos tracks…There is a methodology, a working approach, and the theory is something that I can go into, but I don’t like to do it for the listener because it seems to look like special pleading, like you are forcing your art to mean certain things. And it often looks like something is supposed to be some sort of crux or justification for the work, and I don’t like that relationship. I guess the theory for us goes into the discussion of what the liner notes will be. We’re making decisions about how much information people will need, and how that information will change what they hear. But there isn’t an explicit position that we’re taking.

Discorder: Do you see yourself as a part of a tradition of artists, going back the past 20 years, who are taking up the body as a site of art, a site of protest?

Drew: Yeah, and for me, a lot of the art I find interesting is the extreme body-art of the ‘70s. People like Gina Paine, or the Vienna Actionists test social limits of what is acceptable, and the property of the body, ownership of the body with what they did to themselves and also to the nature of the institutions of which the art is consumed, by bringing very personal and intimate bodily experiences and events into a gallery museum. I think our milieu is quite different from theirs in that we make records that are portable, that aren’t tied to any particular institutional space. We aren’t insisting on our bodies in the ways that [for example] pop stars do. Pop star product is in a weird way closer to ‘70s performance art as it insists on Jennifer Lopez’s breasts, and on her body and on her face. The facelessness of our music, it’s literal, on the picture of ourselves on the new record our faces are concealed. We’re using sound rather than image, that’s the big cut-off, that we aren’t relying on the experience of recognition you have when you see a performance of someone doing something extreme to their body. Instead, you are hearing it as sound and I think that changes it quite a bit…how your imagination completes it.

Now, having seen the performance, I question this. MC Schmidt seems to be the submissive one, subjected to the various physical processes during their live, and very visual, performance at Mutek. His face and skin were blown up on the screen; and many recent publications have been running a photo of the duo with surgery marks on their faces. Contrary to the music, the visual aspect of Matmos is as enthralling, if not more so. Despite their attempts to escape the visual element of the body, they have only ended up reinforcing it. How to listen to this album, then? Daniel says that the optimal listening condition is that of his father: he plays it in his operating room. Daniel’s father is a cosmetic surgeon.

Matmos: “We love your station.”

[Note: They love CiTR 101.9FM Vancouver]

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